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  1. baguaboy
    baguaboy
    August 18, 2010 at 6:23 pm |

    i am sorry , but the parting shot about helicos is just plain ridiculuous….the RNA research published only 2 weeks ago in Nature represents possibily the most major breakthrough in sequencing in recent memory…..a “dodo”…who are you kidding?..

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  3. MellisAK
    MellisAK
    August 18, 2010 at 10:39 pm |

    True enough, Helicos wasn’t able to find a market for their machines at $1M a pop. They realized quickly enough and smartly changed directions – aiming for the lucrative diagnostics market. Their technology is very interesting and capable of doing what no one else can (yet). At a $50M market cap, don’t be surprised to see them gobbled up soon as well.

    They’re not dodos over there. A recent article from NHGRI delves into the “Road to the $1000 Genome” and Helicos is a still a key player.

    http://www.genome.gov/27540667

  4. clive_g_brown
    clive_g_brown
    August 19, 2010 at 8:22 am |

    I like to think of the gen 2 systems as giant fighting dinosuars, ‘G per run – grr – arggh’ etc, a volcano of data spewing behind them in a Jurassic landscape – Sequanosaurus Rex. Meanwhile, in the undergrowth, the gen 3 ‘ mammals’ are quietly getting on with evolving and adapting to the imminent climate change…..smaller, faster, agile and more intelligent…

  5. Dark_Base
    Dark_Base
    August 19, 2010 at 2:17 pm |

    Knowing Rothberg, Ion Torrent is most likely a cardboard cut-out of a gazelle. I would wait until you see realistic performance specs, pricing and timelines before formatting your table to fit their overzealous marketing materials.

  6. Dark_Base
    Dark_Base
    August 19, 2010 at 4:31 pm |

    I see no official or validated performance spec published anywhere, just conjecture from comments made during Rothberg’s weird talk at AGBT. When the early access customers give specs, then I think I can believe them. Until then marketing can give vague performance specs. I agree they must have been promising enough for Life to spend so much money, so maybe the Gazelle is appropriate!

    The price point of the purchase would make it hard to sell a cheap sequencer. How many $50K sequencers and consumables would you have to sell to make back the investment and turn a profit? The first $50K sequencer may be the overseas rip-off of the technology where they did not have to incur the developmental costs. All in all this will be a great story to watch!

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